Supporting Neurodivergent Veterinary Professionals | Episode 68 | Reviving Vet Med

Neurodiversity remains a largely misunderstood and under-discussed topic in veterinary medicine, despite the profound ways it shapes how professionals experience and engage with their work. In this episode, we speak with Helen Allwood — small animal vet turned coach and trainer — about her journey from veterinary practice to coaching, following a late ADHD diagnosis that transformed her sense of self and professional path.

Helen shares how her diagnosis ignited a passion for neurodiversity advocacy and how she now supports veterinary professionals — especially those who are neurodivergent — through leadership development, career transitions, and work-related challenges. We explore common misconceptions about ADHD and autism in the profession, the struggles neurodivergent individuals often bring to coaching, and the strategies that help them thrive.

Whether you're neurodivergent yourself, work with someone who is, or lead a team and want to do better — this episode offers powerful insights, practical guidance, and a fresh perspective on what it means to truly revive veterinary medicine.

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In today's episode, we'll be exploring the topics of neurodiversity and coaching in veterinary medicine with our guest, Helen Allwood. Helen is a small animal vet turned coach and trainer with 15 years of experience in the profession. After receiving a later in life ADHD diagnosis, she became an advocate for neurodiversity in the workplace and now supports veterinary professionals through leadership coaching, career transitions and return to work journeys. Topics include the impact of a late ADHD diagnosis on identity and career misconceptions about ADHD and autism in vet medicine, common struggles faced by neurodivergent professionals, and how leaders can create inclusive, safe environments. Helen also shares coaching strategies that empower neurodivergent team members and her perspective on what Reviving Veterinary Medicine really means. So with that said, I'm excited to share this information with you today. So let's go ahead and get into the episode.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
This is the Reviving Vet Med podcast and I'm your host, Dr. Marie Holowaychuk. My mission is to improve the mental health and wellbeing of veterinary professionals. Hi Helen. I'm so glad to have you on the podcast today. Thanks for being here.

Helen Allwood:
Thank you. It's lovely to be here.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah. I wonder if you can start by sharing a little bit about your veterinary journey, what your background is and what inspired you to get into coaching.

Helen Allwood:
Yeah, so I've done a little bit of everything, I think so. I was in mixed practice for a little while and really loved that and then was in a very big and very busy charity hospital, small animal charity hospital, for 12 years and went into leadership there and loved that. Love the ECC caseload and the owners and the team and everything about that was fab.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Amazing, I love that so from there, how did you make the transition from practice to being a coach?

Helen Allwood:
Somebody said to me, actually think about what your job doesn't feel like work. And for me it was one to one with my staff, with my team, and I just love talking to them and I love getting to know them and I loved, yeah, kind of getting a bit deeper and spending that one on one time with them. So when I was thinking about diversifying from clinical practice, I thought about that and what did I really enjoy? And that was it for me. And so it was coaching really. And I got my ADHD diagnosis when I was off my maternity leave, actually. Crazy time. So that was all about the same time I was thinking about diversifying.

After my third child, I got my ADHD diagnosis and those things kind of came together to kind of lay out the career path that I then followed.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah, you talk a lot about your late life diagnosis of ADHD. I'm wondering how that impacted your professional identity and your sense of self getting that new information.

Helen Allwood:
Yeah, a lot. A lot I think is the answer. But not all at once. I mean, there were some immediate things, so there were some things that I realized immediately about myself. But in true ADHD fashion, I went for the diagnosis very quickly. So I thought maybe I might have ADHD. And then within a fortnight I had an appointment to see whether that was the case and then got the diagnosis. I really rushed into it and I don't regret that. But I mean, it wouldn't be for everybody to do that. So, yeah, it took a little while then to realize what that meant professionally and personally, like both really. So some things I realized straight away, but then a lot of things, it took a long time to figure out what traits I identified with, what I didn't identify with so much.

And it was really ADHD coaching that helped me through that transition because there's loads of grief there as well. Like there's this huge amount of what if I'd have known this information sooner, would it have changed things? Would I have acted any differently? Would I have been able to be a bit more compassionate to myself? Would I have asked for different things? So it's a big time, that kind of diagnosis. Yeah.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Wow, it's so interesting. I have a few colleagues and friends and coaching clients as well who've also had this late life diagnosis or later in life. We're not late in life, but we are adults receiving this diagnosis when many today are diagnosed as children. And it almost seems like there's this sense of Relief, you know, it's like, oh, my gosh. Like, that makes sense. For all this time, I thought there was something wrong with me, and I just couldn't do these things. And now I recognize that this is just simply the way my brain works. I hadn't thought about it from the perspective of grief, where, yeah, like, all of this lost time, not knowing, how could that have looked differently for me? Yeah. What a great sentiment to share.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
I'm really curious as to how that diagnosis then led to your advocacy for neurodiversity awareness in vet Med, because I know that this is a huge passion of yours. It's something that you've taught me a lot about. How has this formed for you over time since getting your diagnosis?

Helen Allwood:
Yeah, that was an immediate thing for some reason, and I still haven't really quite worked out why. As soon as I got the diagnosis, I really wanted to shout about it. I really wanted to tell my story, and that's partly why I'm here talking to you and doing coaching and everything, because I think that so many people must be out there, don't know this about themselves, and it's made such a positive difference to me that I really wanted to kind of shout about it. And it was almost an impulsive thing, you know, oh, my gosh, this is so great. You know, mixed in with the grief stuff. But, yeah, so I wanted to share my story. I really did, because I thought it would help other people that were in the situation that I was in.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah, it sounds like there were a lot of mixed emotions there. Right. Like processing it, coming to terms with it, experiencing the grief, wanting to advocate. I can relate to that a little bit. In my transition through burnout and just, you know, when I finally had words to what I had gone through and how that intersected with my mental health challenges such as depression and anxiety, it's like, oh, my gosh. Like, if I had known this information ahead of time, I probably would have made some different decisions and I would have done some things differently. And how many people could I help if they had this information that I have now? So I can really identify with that passion. And I'm curious, you know, you mentioned there's people out there that might not even know that they're living with ADHD.

What do you think are some common misconceptions about ADHD and autism or, you know, other neurodivergent conditions in vet medicine that you really feel passionate about challenging?

Helen Allwood:
I think the main one is we are substandard vets or substandard colleagues or substandard people, because it's just not the case. And I don't want to blow my own trumpet because, I mean, who likes to do that? But, like, I'm a good vet, you know, and a lot of that is because of my ADHD. Not despite it, you know, not apart from it. You know, I'm very driven. I empathize well with clients and get on well with other team members. I like details, I'm good at seeing patterns. You know, I'm really interested in diagnostics. I'm really good in a crisis because a lot of the time with ADHD, everything's a crisis. So, you know, an emergency situation just as, you know, the norm. And so that is it for me, you know, like neurodivergent people.

And we're great colleagues, we're really good at the job if we can support ourselves and support each other properly. And again, that's why I wanted to go into coaching, because that's it for me. Coaching is such great support if you are in the veterinary sector and so, so necessary throughout that whole diagnostic process and throughout your working life and figuring yourself out that has been central to my support and it's central to the kind of support that I'd like to give others as well.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
I love that I'm smiling and laughing because I mentioned that I have some close friends and colleagues who have been diagnosed with ADHD and, or autism and they are brilliant individuals and veterinarians like just tremendous creativity and problem solving skills, tremendous ability to stay focused during an emergency situation. As an emergency and critical care specialist, I work with a lot of individuals in that space. I think perhaps they gravitate towards the emergency space because they feel, you know, at home there within that more stressful setting for some other folks. Yeah. Gosh, I would never think to call somebody less than. And yet I can identify with that thought that there's something not typical about the way my brain works and therefore that must in some way impact my capacity as a vet.

And I see the analogy there between mental health challenges and neurodivergence where there's that sense of something different about me. And I hesitate to say different and therefore wrong or not normal. I'm putting that in air quotes, so I can see that. And I'm so glad that you're dispelling the myth because I agree it couldn't be further from the truth. You mentioned, and you have mentioned a few times, this, you know, the benefit of coaching. And I know you really experienced positive results from that when you did coaching. And I have no doubt you've seen that within your one client as well. What do you see as the biggest challenges that individuals with ADHD experience when they come to you for coaching?

Helen Allwood:
Yeah, lots of different things. Mental health challenges are a huge one. And obviously mental health challenges can go for various reasons, hand in hand with neurodivergence. And I think there's a lot of overlap there, you know, in what I talk about, because there's a lot of reasons where if you might feel other, if you're neurodivergent, if you might feel different, that would erode your self esteem and can cause some real mental health challenges. And anxiety is a big one for neurodivergent people as well. So I talk to my clients a lot about mental health challenges and how we can stabilize ourselves. I think a lot. You talked before about putting a name to something and a lot of it is that one of the things that we struggle with sometimes as neurodivergent individuals is naming our feelings interoception.

Actually having a name for your feelings can really help you process that, you know, and work through that. So a lot of mental health stuff we talk about switching off at the end of the day a lot. Communication skills loads, we talk about that a lot. And sometimes as well, what I do is to speak with people's line managers as well, with them present. So do like a three way meeting, which can be really useful and really nice as well to kind of almost help them communicate with their line manager with me there. So that can be really useful. And yeah, things like executive function, things like time management, you know, all of those things that we can strategize around when we have a bit of time and headspace that we get in coaching.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Absolutely, yeah. You know, I often chuckle because I think executive functioning skills are something that everyone can benefit from, not just individuals with ADHD. But yeah, it does seem, you know, when I connect with my coaching clients who have ADHD, that there really can be these challenges around planning out their day and staying on task and not getting into this switching tasks or hyper focusing on certain tasks. And then this time blindness that happens is where it's like, oh my gosh, I ended up getting sucked into this thing for two hours when I needed to be doing something else. So I know that there's lots of different strategies there and ways to help. Speaking of which, what do you find are some helpful strategies?

You know, I know there's lots out there Obviously you mentioned even just, you know, this self awareness, this, name it to tame it, as we say, where we can get really more in touch with our feelings and be able to name those, have an awareness, process it and move on. What other strategies have you found to be helpful with some of your ADHD coaching clients?

Helen Allwood:
There's loads of different ones and I'm a little bit reluctant to kind of name them because what I really do is kind of feed in things like the Pomodoro technique and that sort of thing, you know, with timers. But it's very rare that I say to a coaching client, here's this strategy, go and use it. It's absolutely about co-creating what's going to work for them in their life. And this is why coaching is such a sort of interactive dynamic back into sort of process, because I can tell you what I think is going to help you, but you are the expert on your own life. Like, I have not got all the information, but you have. And if I make a suggestion of a strategy, then we need to figure out how that's going to work for you.

And actually a lot of the time I make a suggestion of a strategy and where we end up in completely different places. Co created some brilliant solutions with people. And this is what I mean. Indie people have these amazing creative brains and lying on the floor with my cat in the dark was one strategy that we had, you know, for someone to help them switch off after work. One of my clients created the most amazing set of stickers to put in her diary to make sure she built everything out properly. There's no way I could have said, this is what I think you need to do with that.

It's about feeding my knowledge of what the strategies could be and feeding their experience of how their brain works, what's going on in their life and everything else, and really coming together to create those bespoke strategies.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
I love that. Yeah, I know. You and I have connected about your approach to coaching before, where you spend a lot of time with the individual identifying first and foremost what their strengths are. Right. Like these are your superpowers, essentially. This is what makes you great and skillful and, you know, so competent as a veterinarian and as a human. And then here are the places where you're maybe feeling stuck or challenged and so knowing what you know and what's worked for you might make some suggestions, or I won't even call them suggestions. That seems a bit strong. But here's some things that have worked for individuals in Your situation before, which of those resonate and how might we make them uniquely beneficial for you? So I love that. Switching gears a little bit from the individual to the leaders.

What are some ways that veterinary workplaces can unintentionally exclude or even overlook neurodivergent team members? And I know you mentioned working a lot in conjunction with the supervisors or the leaders in the practice and your clients. What are those conversations highlighted for you in terms of some challenges there?

Helen Allwood:
I think it starts at an interview, actually. A lot of our interviews now can be quite formulaic, I think. You know, when I first went for my mixed practice job, it was a chat and that was great. When I went for my most recent leadership role, it was very points based questions, which is great in a lot of ways and very useful. But as a neurodivergent person, sometimes our processing speeds can be different. And something as simple as having the questions in advance for an interview can be, you know, massive. It can be the difference between you seeing what I can do in the job and me freezing up and being able to say nothing. So things like that. And there's quite a lot of resistance often to those kinds of adjustments. A lot of leaders say that's not fair, why should I do that?

And I would say, why not do it to everyone, not do it for everybody. Like it's a really useful thing. Why shouldn't we all have some time to think about those things in advance? So from that point onwards, I think sometimes it's difficult for leaders. It's difficult because as a leader you often get thrown into this sort of accidental leadership type of role. And you know, I was a leader. I had no idea what to do with neurodivergent people. And I had no idea. I couldn't even define neurodiversity at that point. You know, there's so much to do as a new veterinary leader that, you know, if somebody comes along to you and says, well, also you need to cater for different brains, I think that's really hard to take.

So again, I think that's where I come in to help leaders with that. And there's got to be loads of compassion behind that. There's got to be because Veterinary leaders are 99.999% of the time trying their absolute hardest. You know, we need to collaborate, don't we?

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah, it's so interesting. You know, you touched on the adjustments that can be made for individuals. And I think we often use the word, at least here in North America, we talk about accommodations and it almost feels like this swear word, you know, in the workplace. And I do a lot of leadership training myself around communication. And so there's this inevitable pushback that I get that is, well, what about everybody else when they see these accommodations and then they question, well, why do they get to work in this part of the hospital by themselves? And why do they not have to see XYZ appointments anymore and all of these things? And I do think we need a little bit of a mindset shift there.

First of all, a knowledge and awareness of what neurodiversity is and how our brains all function differently and how we want to support each other so that we can function to our best ability. And also recognizing it as less so of accommodations and more so of just helping everybody function as their best human self. Right. For neurotypical and neurotypical neuroatypical individuals. Right. Like, we all need things to flourish. So let's embrace that, be open to that, and not look at it as though someone is having some sort of unfair advantage or unfair getting off the hook with certain types of work or whatever it might be. I think, like you said, there is so much that still remains to be learned in this space. And so with that increased awareness, I think we'll have better empathy and understanding.

And if we can maybe change some of the language around how we're supporting people in the workplace, that perhaps that would help as well. You know, along those same lines, I'm wondering how you help leaders in veterinary practices create environments that are neurodiversity inclusive. Right. Inclusive to the fact that everyone's brains work differently. And I think with that comes a little bit of psychological safety, like the safety for people to speak up and say, hey, I can't work with the radio on really loud throughout the hospital, or, you know, I can't type up my records in the treatment room when the dental equipment is whirring away. What advice do you have for them?

Helen Allwood:
For me, and this is what I provide as well with my little company, the vet project. So we provide CE, as you call it over there, or CPD, Neurodiversity Training for leaders, because it's so important that people know about it. As I say, I didn't know about it as a leader. I didn't know anything about it. And what we find is training and awareness brings compassion. Always. Always. You know, if you don't know, how can you possibly understand? And if you understand, then you can be compassionate about whatever it is. So, yeah, it's about making leaders think and that individual kind of that you were talking about there in terms of not having everybody doing the same thing, I think that's so important. Fairness. What, like what's that? What is it fair that we all have to do the same thing all the time?

Is that fair or actually is that not fair? Is it? If I'm great at ECC work and I hate vaccinations, why not? You know, I do more ECC work and my colleague who likes vaccinations does a bit more of that, you know, and then when I have to do some vaccinations, I'm going to be much happier about that. It's rethinking what fairness is, what equality is, what equity is, and actually redefining that. That's what training is for me.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Mm, I love that. That's beautifully said. I know that in addition to coaching leaders, you also coach individuals with return to work transitions and career. What do you find that those clients need most with coaching?

Helen Allwood:
A lot of it again is about self discovery. I think so much of coaching is about self discovery a lot of the time. I don't think, whether a neurodivergent or neurotypical, that we have to spend any time getting to know ourselves and what our values are and what we want and what we need. And when you're thinking about transitions or returning to work or new leadership, you really need to know what you're about and what your values are and where you sit on certain things. So although those things sound like they might be quite different areas of coaching, we often come back to those sort of similar themes of actually, who am I, what do I want and what do I need and how is this going to affect my next steps tomorrow and next week and next year?

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah, I love that. You also, I know, have postgraduate training in business and I'm wondering how that has also shaped the way that you support your clients as well.

Helen Allwood:
Yeah, so this is a certificate that I'm doing in business and personal coaching, which is kind of in addition to all the other coaching qualifications I did. So it really, it's about being evidence based. So at the moment I'm writing essays and I'm really reading a lot of papers about coaching and I think as veterinary professionals we love evidence based stuff, don't we? It can't be too, you know, woo. So that really helps me reading lots of papers and being able to summarize those and taking the evidence behind coaching and then transferring that into my sessions.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah, I love that. It's so true. I speak A lot about mindfulness and it's far too woo without the evidence. And thankfully a lot of these fields where, you know, 10, 15 years ago there was really no good solid evidence to support them. Today we do have relatively well structured research studies demonstrating the benefits of mindfulness, meditation, coaching, et cetera. So I love that you're taking steps to learn more about that and then be able to integrate that evidence into your support. What advice would you give to somebody who thinks that they might be neurodivergent and feels unsure about pursuing an assessment or a diagnosis? I know for you latched onto it really quickly. You were like, yes, you know, like I'm all in.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
I have connected with some individuals that have a sense that this could be true for them and yet there is hesitation there. And certainly in some circumstances there's also the challenge with not having access to services. I know that this can be a huge challenge in the U.S. For example, where they don't have as ready access or there's long wait lists even here in Canada sometimes to get that diagnosis. But what would you say now being on the other side of this to somebody who really wants to or is considering digging deep in here?

Helen Allwood:
I would say talk to somebody, don't try and do it alone. If you can find a neurodiversity affirming friend or colleague or somebody that knows a bit about this stuff, try and talk to them about it because it's such a big thing. It's not something that I think you should try and do alone. It's a lot and we need to have support or email me. Do you know, I've been through it. I know what it's like and sometimes that person isn't always obvious. If you don't have that person, then it might be that you need to reach out a little bit wider to find who that is.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah, that is the beauty of having individuals like you who have been through this and now are on the other side and are offering coaching to individuals. So what I'm hearing you say is that if an individual hasn't received a formal diagnosis, they can still reach out to you and connect with you and you can help, you know, guide them through what that looks like and support them along the way, which I think is absolutely incredible. A couple more questions, one I'm personally curious about. I know you talked about this aspect of grief earlier in our conversation and gosh, how might things have been different if I had this information years ago? What do you think if anything you would have done differently or could have done differently had you had this information. You know, for example, when you started vet school or when you were early in your career, I would have just.

Helen Allwood:
Been nicer to myself. One of the things that I really struggled with, especially in vet school, was rote learning. So things like anatomy. I failed the first anatomy exam because I just didn't know how to do it. And I think if I'd known that my brain wasn't set up to learn in that way, I would have been kinder to myself and tried to find a way around it. So now I know that actually if I need to learn anatomy, I need to look at a surgery case or something like that. There's got to be a reason. I've got to pin it to something I can't learn, you know, muscles just for the sake of it. There needs to be, I need to understand.

And so, yeah, I think I would have been nice to myself and I would have been better because I would have looked for different ways to do things.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Yeah.

Helen Allwood:
Wow.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
What a great story. I can very much relate to the challenges with anatomy. It was my worst class in first year. I remember I barely passed my first exam. I think 58% was my score. And I was devastated. I'd never had a score so low. And I remember seeing everybody just like in the library with their skeletons and their coloring books and all of these things and memorizing, memorizing. And I was like, my brain doesn't work that way either. Like I can't just sit there and memorize and you know, then fast forward when we get to pathology where there's application of anatomy to disease. And I was like, wow. Like it was then I finally got it, you know, it was so much more relevant and it just so much easier to recall because there was that application. So.

So I am definitely a problem based learner as well, so I can definitely relate. But I love that you touched on self compassion because I think, you know, there's this quote, I think it comes from Gretchen Rubin where she says when we know ourselves better, we can ask more of ourselves. I'm probably butchering the quote, but essentially like when we know what our strengths and our challenges are, then we know what we are just innately good at and where we need more support. And in those places where we need more support, we can have compassion. Recognizing that's not a strength for me or that's just not how my brain works, you know what I mean? And you know, the research is so clear that self compassion, while it seems counterintuitive to most of us type A individuals, is much better in terms of resilience.

We can bounce back much faster from challenges when we can be kind to ourselves and just embrace the situation and move on. So I love that. My one last question for you, Helen, before we say goodbye is what does Reviving Veterinary Medicine mean to you?

Helen Allwood:
So it's about community for me and collaboration. And I think the fact that we've got six, including you, of us coaches, all specializing in different areas and having different niches, we've got everything covered, really, haven't we? I think, you know, at any stage of life or anywhere you are, there's something that you can dip into and that isn't possible. You know, as one person, as a coach, you can't be everything to anybody, but as a team, you can be a lot of things to a lot of people. And that feeds into, you know, how we'd like to set up veterinary teams. You know, we've all got our strengths, haven't we? And we've all got our challenges. And I think as a collaborative community, we're all working to our strengths, which is lovely.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
Mm, I love that. Well, Helen, it's been such a pleasure getting to talk to you today. Thanks for sharing a little bit more about your journey and how you support individuals in our profession. And I'm so excited for people to connect with you, so thanks again.

Helen Allwood:
Thank you. Thanks.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
So that's it for this episode of Reviving Vet Med. I hope you took away some tips for supporting neurodivergent individuals in veterinary practice. Whether you're a leader, colleague, or someone navigating your own neurodiverse divergent identity. If you do one thing after listening to this episode, I hope that it's to forward it to a colleague or co worker who you think would benefit from hearing Helen's insights and experiences as well. We would love it if you would subscribe to the podcast so that you're sure to get the new episodes as soon as they drop. If you're interested in connecting with Helen for a 20 minute free introductory Zoom call, please check out the show notes or Visit revivingvetmed.com/coaching. You can also follow us on social media at Reviving Vet Med for more tips and strategies for wellbeing in vet medicine.

Dr. Marie Holowaychuk:
And if you have questions about today's episode, suggestions for future topics or inquiries about sponsorship, please email us at podcast@revivingvetmed.com I'd like to thank the team at Podcast Prime Solutions for producing this episode, and I'd also like to thank you for listening. I hope you'll tune in next time. In the meantime, take care of yourself. Bye for now.